Smart Podcast, Trashy Books Podcast

219. Listener Email, Voicemail, and Book Recommendations

This week my guests are: you! I have email, voicemail, more email, and an update as to what exactly the hero in Defy Not the Heart learned from a prostitute all those purple leggings ago. I try not to crack up at your email messages, (fail) and I try to describe a really convoluted Sandra Brown plot (also fail). Then Amanda joins me for a short conversation about pets, cats, and what she’s reading, with extra commentary from Zeb the dog.

Please note: at about 38:29 – 39:00 Amanda discusses a book she’s reading that involves violence against women.

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  1. Katie C. says:

    I left this comment on last week’a episode too, but I am super interested in a comment Elyse made at the very beginning of last week’a episode so I thought I would post it here to out of an over abundance of curiosity:

    At the very beginning of last week’s podcast Elyse mentions listening to true crime podcasts. I would love to have a list of what she is currently listening to or what she has listened to in the past and would recommend!

  2. SB Sarah says:

    @Katie: I am so on it! Stay tuned!

  3. Amanda says:

    @Katie: Totally chiming in here since I also listen to true crime podcasts. Right now, I only regularly listen to three and that’s My Favorite Murder, Last Podcast on the Left, and Sword & Scale. The first two have a more comedic vibe, while the last I would compare to Serial.

  4. SB Sarah says:

    OK, Katie, get ready – I have a List for you from Elyse!

    Her favorites are:

    My Favorite Murder
    Criminal
    Generation Why
    Real Crime Profile

  5. Crystal says:

    My daughter is reading Harry Potter right now too. She’s on the second one, and I have the same thoughts you do, because the first three have their scary thrill moments but are still reasonably innocuous and then you hit book 4, which both opens and closes with a murder. She’s 9 and I have to think that’s going to be rough sledding, just because she gets really emotional when bad things happen to characters she likes (things she has cried at: Stitch at the end of Lilo and Stitch 2, Eleven at the end of Stranger Things, and recently King Henry in Once Upon a Time). I’ll get her through it, but yiiiiikes.

  6. m&m says:

    M&M
    Hello Smart Bitches, thank you for another great podcast!
    I have a question for the SB community:
    Does anyone have any romance recommendations that have more realistic descriptions of women’s bodies? Books that refer to, or describe things like body hair, cellulite, bad skin/hair days. Heroines always seem to have super-smooth skin with not a single armpit hair or *gasp* any leg hair. Especially in historicals, where I doubt hair removal would have been common (or was it? Correct me if I am wrong). They never seem to sweat and always smell of sunshine and lavender. They never seem to have cellulite or rolls. Their boobs are always perfectly round and full, hair is always soft as silk, etc. I would like to read a romance book where the author addresses some of these things. I know that in contemporary romance you can assume the heroine has done some things off page (e.g having a super expensive hair treatment, facial, waxing session, etc), but what about historicals romance book? I always find it funny that the heroines always have perfectly smooth legs, lol!
    Anyhow, I am really curious to know if any such books exist? As I can’t recall reading any.
    Thank you!

  7. SB Sarah says:

    @M&M: are you looking specifically for historicals or in general?

  8. m&m says:

    Hi Sarah, in general. Thank you!

  9. g says:

    A Somewhat Intimidating Woodpecker and Ficus?

    Dear Sarah,
    Please write this.

  10. Katie C. says:

    @SB Sarah and @Amanda – thanks for getting back to me – I have downloaded episodes and look forward to trying them out. The only thing longer than my “Podcasts to Listen To” list is my TBR list, but I love listening to podcasts and I will try these out!

  11. Ren Benton says:

    @m&m: The heroine of Ten Thousand Hours (which I wrote) has stretch marks on her thighs, floppy bits subsequent to weight loss, some concern about the date of her last encounter with a razor, and other assorted real-world bodily concerns. I linked my name to the book description with available excerpt if you’re interested.

    (SB Sarah, please delete this and ban my IP from commenting ever again if it’s as obnoxious as I’m afraid it is, but this is two days in a row this site has had someone ask for something that made me want to raise my hand and say, “Ooh! Ooh! I wrote one of those!”, so now I’m really concerned it’s A Sign™ and I’m risking karmic wrath by being too cowardly to say something.)

  12. SB Sarah says:

    Ren, you’d have to do a LOT worse for me to ban your IP! Like try to sell me illegal pharmaceuticals with 14 thousand links.

  13. KateB says:

    Thanks for the podcast! My favorite episodes are the ones where the Bitchery gets together and/or listeners write in, so yay!

    @Elyse & @Katie C: I LOVE My Favorite Murder. I’d also recommend

    – Crime Writers On… – which started as a Serial fancast and now is more crime writers talking about True Crime in general

    – In the Dark – excellent podcast about the failed investigation into the (now solved) abduction case of Jacob Wetterling

    – Breakdown – the Atlanta Journal Constitution’s … breakdown of specific cases gone to court

  14. Diandra says:

    You can totally have a slow burn in one book! THE HATING GAME was so good. I think I need to reread it! 😉 Mariana Zapata’s books are all slow burn and I highly recommend them. Wall of Winnie is my favorite, but UNDER LOCKE, KULTI, RHYTHM, CHORD & MALYKHIN, are great as well. Kristen Ashley does kind of slow burn, but with more angst and darker themes. Penny Reid also does excellent slow burn. Her Knitting in the City series is fabulous, and the spin off of the fourth book, the Winston Brothers is fan-tastic.

    And I’m with you Sarah, I loooove the talking during intimate moments. Especially when there’s humor! It makes it all so much more human and real to me.

    I am ALL ABOUT female rage being expressed in books. I adore GA Aiken/Shelley Laurenston for those reasons you said, Sarah. (Besides the bonkers humor and awesome fantasy elements) Looking forward to that podcast.

  15. LaTeresita says:

    I loved the Wall of Winnipeg. The slow burn makes the payoff so worth it. The marathon scene. Swoon. I’m a fast reader so long reads work for me plus trying to figure out how the HEA will happen. Beautiful internal angst.

  16. M & M says:

    @ Ren Benton, thank you for letting me know about your book. I will check it out.

    I also enjoyed the Hating Game, I’m looking forward to reading more from Sally Thorne.

    If anyone else is interested, Jezebel.com have an interesting article about women’s hair removal :
    400 years of women removing their body hair.
    http://jezebel.com/5969490/400-years-of-women-removing-their-body-hair

    How do other readers feel about how women’s bodies are described in romance books? Do you want more realism? Or do you prefer that authors not go into too much detail about female body “issues”.

    And a question for authors, do you feel that there is pressure from editors/publishers to avoid bringing up some of the above-mentioned things when describing the physicality of your heroines? Especially during the intimate scenes?

  17. HollyG says:

    @M&M – Jennif Cruise has a few great female realistic characters (both are contemporaries) Bet Me (link is above) and Anyone but you – older woman and younger man situation. . I looked through my historical and nothing really stood out

  18. M & M says:

    @HollyG: Thank you for the recommendations!

  19. Tina from Texas says:

    I want to add to the list of true crime podcasts, Casefile. The guy is from Australia so a lot of the stories are from there and also the U.K. very good!

  20. Katie C. says:

    @Tina from Texas – I added it to my to listen list!

  21. Natalija says:

    Great podcast, thanks for sharing! I use Apple Podcasts app on my ipad. It’s not bad and does everything I need. The only problem I have is the volume. Since I mostly listen while I clean, I find it difficult to follow because of the low volume. Are there any podcast apps that are better for those who listen without earbuds?

  22. SB Sarah says:

    I have an Android device, so I can’t make a lot of iPad recs, but I know that a few of my friends use OverCast. I use PocketCast, which is for a bunch of different platforms, and I like it a lot, too. Both have features to boost the spoken words for better hearing. I hope that helps!

    Also – I am loving all the comments and recommendations – thank you, y’all!

  23. Cecilia says:

    Answering to your question, I simply listen to it on the relative SBTB page. I don’t have smartphone/tablets, so I listen to all podcasts on my laptop and on their respective home pages.

  24. Kate says:

    I’m a Android/Windows-based obsessive podcast listener and have been very happy with Stitcher. I have it installed on both my LG phone and Kindle Fire, and love that it allows me to listen to part of a podcast on one device and then pick up at the same place on the other (make sure you are completely closed out on the first device and still on wifi). There are only a few podcasts that aren’t available via Stitcher (My Dad Wrote a Porno, for example) but the vast majority are accessible. If only they would make an app for the Amazon Echo, my listening life would be complete.

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