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516. This is What Matters, with Dr. Perpetua Neo

This is What Matters
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Dr. Perpetua Neo is a psychologist and author of the new book, This is What Matters: A Step-by-Step Workbook for Identifying Your Values, Priorities, and Path Forward after a Crisis. I’ve been reading and working through the journaling prompts, and wanted to interview her to talk about the origins of this workbook, and her practice working with people.

This is What Matters is a series of questions and prompts to help people with post-traumatic growth in identifying on an individual level, well, what matters to you.

We also discuss:

  • Sleeping like a lion
  • Embracing free unscheduled time
  • Cognitive Photoshop
  • Identifying the life one wants and starting to build it now
  • When was the last time your heart really sang?

If you’re someone who keeps a journal, this episode will give you a lot to think about.I love books that encourage people to identify their individual desires and goals and enable them to practice the life they want to lead.

Thank you to Maria Orlandi from Adams Media.


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  1. Jennifer says:

    Well, I’d say that my priorities in crisis are stability and security. Like I hate my day job, but it’s a reliable paycheck and health insurance and I’m not likely to be considered expendable, the way I was in my previous profession.

    Don’t really know how to resolve that when my soul is sick of my day job, but my interests are useless and expendable, though. Like “never going to have another job I’m interested in again because all I care about the arts.”

  2. Jill Q. says:

    This was really interesting and appropriate because my kids’ summer break starts on Monday and I have a tradition of reflecting on these type of questions at that time and making life tweaks so I can make the most of summer. I often like to change things up so summer can feel “special” and I can feel more present for my kids.
    Sometimes summer habits become permanent and sometimes they don’t, but it’s always an understanding interesting practice.

  3. SB Sarah says:

    @Jennifer: I have similar priorities so I understand. But why do you think your interests are useless and expendable? Interests and things you do in addition to the work just need to bring you joy, I think.

  4. SB Sarah says:

    @Jill: I do the same at the start of summer. And at the New Year. And the Jewish New Year. Wow I navel gaze a lot. 😀

    I definitely understand the idea of wanting summer to feel special, and to feel present, which often requires my slowing down! It’s too hot to move quickly!

  5. Sita says:

    This sounds so interesting! Unfortunately something is wonky with the iTunes podcast. The latest episode listed is 495 so I don’t know what is going on. Drat! Maybe it’s just me? Any advice?

  6. SB Sarah says:

    @Sita: Thank you for letting me know! I had to move the podcast to a dedicated server and the forwarding was not as smooth as it should have been! If you unsubscribe and resubscribe, it should populate with all the newest episodes.

    please let me know if it does not? I’m sorry for the extra work on your part.

  7. Sita says:

    Thank you SB Sarah! I could have sworn I tried that (but it is Friday and my brain needs a break, so who knows?), so I just unsubscribed and resubscribed and it fixed it! Many thanks. 🙂

  8. SB Sarah says:

    Yes! Thank you for letting me know. I’m so sorry about the trouble.

  9. Kate says:

    I went out and bought this book yesterday even before the podcast was done. Like Jennifer above, I hate my job but several attempts to change careers have failed and with all the losses and upheavals of the past few years, I don’t even know what I want anymore. (Except a firepit. I’d really like to live in a home with a firepit.)

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