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379. Dystopian Futures, Burnout, and More with Alyssa Cole

This week’s theme is: “This is fiction and it’s not far from reality.”

If you’re queuing up podcasts for travel journeys, I hope you’ll add this one, as it’s immediately one of my favorites. Alyssa Cole and I start off talking about her Audible Original, The AI Who Loved Me, which releases December 3, 2019, and the many things she put in her imaginary near future that are now coming true. We also talk a lot about burnout, the costs of working too much, gentrification, her upcoming action-thriller-romantic-comedy, and overcoming hesitation to promote your own work. There are some thoughtful, weighty topics in this episode, but we also laugh so much, and I hope this conversation is as uplifting and inspiring for you as it was for me.


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You can find Alyssa Cole on her website, on Twitter, and on Instagram.

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The music in this episode is from Purple-Planet, and this track is “Infinite Ocean.”

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  1. 1
    Karen says:

    What enjoyable interview! Thank you, Sarah and Alyssa.

  2. 2
    Sarah F says:

    I was so thrilled to hear Alyssa talk about how a lot of technology is basically surveillance equipment. My friends think I’m crazy because I don’t want an Alexa or other devices of that nature. I say “That thing is recording every word you say all the time and storing somewhere, and you have no idea what is being done with that information or who has access to it! HARD PASS.”
    When Sarah said ‘If the product is free then you are the product’ I did a tiny fist pump at my desk because I say that all the time!!!
    I love Alyssa’s writing, and knowing that she is both interested in AI and technology but also cognizant of it’s dangers just makes me love her more!
    Thank you so much for the interview!

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