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373. Being Purveyors of Hope: Diversity, Education, Inclusion, and Romance with Consultant Sunny Lee-Goodman

This week my guest is DEI Consultant and Romance Fan Sunny Lee-Goodman. You might recall her name from my recent conversation with Dowager RWA President HelenKay Dimon. Sunny is the DEI – Diversity, Education, and Inclusion Consultant working with RWA, and her experience in this field is incredible. In our conversation we talk about tolerance, owning the possibility that you might be wrong, and how to be aware of your own point of view. I ask a lot of questions about the nature of her work, and how individuals and companies can evolve and expand to be more inclusive. Then we talk a whole lot about romance and romance recommendations.

Special appearance from Wilbur, who wanted to add his own vocal stylings to the episode.

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  1. Sara Ohlin says:

    Another GREAT podcast episode!! And Sarah, read Penny Reid!!!!! She’s incredible!

  2. ReadKnitSnark says:

    Awesome interview once again!

    Sunny, an audiobook rec for you and your son. (Also Sarah and her sons.) A Beautiful Friendship by David Weber is SF YA with an amazing narrator (Khristine Hvam). If you like it, there are two more books to enjoy.

    Another audiobook rec (an Audible Original MG) that I think you will all enjoy is Zero G by Dan Wells. It’s a full cast comfort listen for me. A little Home Alone-ish—but not as mean.

    My “if you like Innkeeper” rec is Tinker by Wen Spencer. It’s got the same kind of delightful mishmash of genres, species, and characters. (It might also work for your son, but I suggest you read it first to see if you want to wait a few years. I’m not so good with the figuring out of age-appropriateness, and there’s definitely some violence in the series.) And the narrator, Tanya Eby, is great.

  3. SB Sarah says:

    Oh, these are some excellent recs. Thank you so much!!

  4. Kareni says:

    I also quite enjoyed this interview (via the transcript). Thank you, Sarah, Sunny, and garlic knitter.

    My recommendation for Sunny and son is Linesman by SK Dunstall.

  5. AuntSam says:

    @Sarah! I can’t believe you haven’t read The Winston Brothers! Did those cross-stitch covers not speak directly to your soul? Everyone has a different favorite–I suggest starting with Siena & Jethro’s story, Grin & Beard It (technically #2, if Ashley & Drew’s story is .5). It gives you a good grounding in the family dynamic, and the main characters are really accessible. If you like it, you’ve got the rest of the Winston series AND the Knitting in the City books to keep you company on dog walks and chores.

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