This week, Sarah interviews Elyse and we discuss Many Many Things. We talk about why Elyse likes erotic dominant/submissive stories. We talk about the tropes she likes, alpha heroes, and power dynamics that appear in multiple sub-genres. We talk about manicures and Elyse's longtime love of time -travel romances. Remember when they were ALL time travel romances? ALL OF THEM? Plus, Elyse has a HaBO for us. Audio HaBO!
Two things!
Thing the first: From about 22:00 -27:00 we discuss a book wherein there is a rape scene, and Elyse goes into some detail about the context and how it fits in the larger story. If that's something that will upset you, I wanted you to be aware.
Thing the second: There's a little bit of audio garble garble, and I apologize for that.
And most important thing that isn't included in thing 1 and thing 2 above: this podcast is a bit more NSFW than usual. Be ye warned!
Here are the books we discuss during this episode:
A young woman’s quiet life is upended when she meets the man of her forbidden dreams in the startling new novel from New York Times bestselling author Beth Kery.
The Affair begins…
The Affair Week One Innocent yet unconventional hospice nurse Emma Shore has secured a new position at The Breakers, the sprawling mansion of enigmatic and dangerously handsome racecar billionaire Michael Montand.
Hired as caretaker for Montand’s stepmother, Emma expects few complications. But one night, lost in the mansion’s maze of corridors, she comes upon a woman and a man she can’t identify engaged in a raw, naked interlude of sexual subjugation. Silently, from the shadows, Emma watches—shocked, appalled, and unnervingly aroused.
But Emma wonders… if this mysterious stranger is not Montand, then who is it? And what other surprises are in store for her? Night after sleepless night, she’s considering the possibilities. And for the first time in her life, she’s not going to run away from them.
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Elyse, is the book you were trying to remember possibly Dangerous Waters by Amy J. Fetzer?
@KellyJo it is! Thank you
Hurry, Garlic Knitter!
I know that sweater on the cover of Knitting. I’m from that place (small town in Finland)! My grandma knows how to make it. I had to check the preview and it says that it’s from the Ostrobothnian Museum (so yeah, that’s it!). Cool!
I love reading Elyse’s reviews but we almost never like the same books. So it was really interesting to hear about what types of books and heroes she likes. But that Rodale book? Beta hero? Tom Hiddleston? Sooo tempted.
Yay! I thought so. It’s been awhile since I read the book. I remember really enjoying it. I added it to my ‘to be reread’ shelf.
Sorry I won’t be able to catch this, especially the “why Elyse likes erotic dominant/submissive stories… alpha heroes and power dynamics.” I find that there’s a lot of the dominant/submissive power dynamic happening with many alpha heroes, even when there’s no overt BDSM. (There’s a line near the end of Lisa Kleypas’ AGAIN THE MAGIC where the heroine described the hero as “a man who made a woman feel safe and, and the same time, deliciously overpowered.”)
I’ve never read Nora Roberts either. I keep meaning to, but I keep meaning to read lots of authors, and the list is just so long. But I will read Vision in White. Eventually.
@Frida I am tempted by the Rodale book too, though I had to look up Tom Hiddleston…
Just listened to this episode of the podcast, and laughed out loud several times! I loved the Pacific Rim reference, and now have several books to add to my list. Do I need to read the other Wallflower books before this one? Or does it basically stand alone?
What to do if I can’t see a PLAY button or link for the podcast? I’m on my iPad.
Never mind, I found it on Podcastpickle. Thanks!
Listened to the podcast this afternoon on my way home from work. Bought “What a Wallflower Wants,” for my Kindle at dinnertime and read it straight through from cover to cover! I’ve never read any of Rodale’s books before, but reading her prose is like wearing my favorite sweater. Cue Good Book Noise and an immediate need to read the rest of the trilogy. Her dialogue made me laugh out loud more than once in a “I need to be friends with these fictional people” kind of way. I adore our heroine, Prue, and the respect with which Rodale handles her character at all times throughout her journey. John is a gorgeous example of a Beta hero, and by the end their happiness feels honest and earned. Also, who doesn’t love an author who says in her author’s note: “I have made my heroes successful in their endeavors to build and produce the Difference Engine because it’s my historical world and I said so.” Thanks for the recommendation, Elyse!
This was the BEST podcast in the history of SBTB podcasts!! Such a great conversation. I thought I was the only person in the romance community who had never read a Nora Roberts book. I’m going to have to take care of that lapse.
I read the first book in that Rodale series and really hated the hero. I had a serious ick factor because he seemed like such a man whore. I kept thinking about the likelihood that he’d give the heroine an STD. I do love a beta hero though so I’m really tempted right now to download it and spend the day reading.
@jimthenerd Iike romances with a power dynamic partly because they are a throw back to the Old Skool romances of my youth, and partly because of the Cinderella fantasy of having someone rich, powerful and handsome taking care of you
What a great podcast! Elyse you’re not alone – I’ve never read a Nora Roberts…or a Jayne Ann Krentz. Partly, I think, because there are so many and it’s difficult to decide where to start.
I went to buy the first book in Maya Rodale’s Wallflower series earlier this week and ended up with What a Wallflower wants instead because One Click. I’ve been on this historical jag lately which is great since there have been so many great new releases!
Din.gus. And the suction. I just cannot… I need to go look at a rainbow or something. (Thanks for a great episode- it made chore day much brighter!)
Based on the (bleach-worthy) scenes I read on Google books, I’m pretty sure Longarm has no clue what a clit is. I’m also pretty sure that he wouldn’t know where to find it, if the clit bit him on the dingus. He seems like the sort that walks in, drops his pants, and thinks “Behold, my ‘Longarm’ will make you convulse with pleasure!” And of course in these books, the women do indeed faint with pleasure at the sight. And then mere thrusts make her die from pleasure overload.
Another trend I noticed while looking through Google books? I think every book has a special lesbian woman that is friends with whatever fuck buddy he is currently with. She brings in the lesbian to show her how “amazing” his ‘Longarm’ is, I suppose thinking that Longarm can cure gayness or some shit. And then there is an entire passage on teaching the woman how to fuck Longarm.
Really, and romance novels are called trashy?
Great podcast, guys! You’ll be glad to know that no kids were traumatised in the listening of your podcast. 🙂
I had never heard of Longarm before. Why do we not have something like this for women??? Dingus reminds me of Mundungus Fletcher, so that’s going to put a whole new spin on Harry Potter for me!
For time travel romance, I used to love Lynn Kurland’s time travel series, particularly Dreams of Stardust.
I remember the mullet contest! And I learned the phrase Canadian tuxedo from SBTB in comments to the mullet contest, I think. That post was epic (is it part of the 10 year retrospective?).
Could someone please tell me the title of the Johanna Lindsey book Elyse was talking about? It is the 17 year old girl who dresses like a boy and becomes a bounty hunter. Thks
@Jane Stewart That Johanna Lindsey about the bounty hunter is All I Need Is You.
Goodreads link: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/412969.All_I_Need_Is_You
Aww. Thanks so much Alexandra. I’m off to get it.
“Dingus” sounds very South African (Afrikaans). Dingus = thing.
I was at a super serious Metro Detroit Book and Author lunch today (1100 people attended) and one of the speakers was Craig Johnson. He seemed like a perfectly nice man and I’m sure a competent author, but all I could think about was this podcast. His character was Longmire. I would have given good money to have had someone immature enough at my table to use the word Dingus.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/21413808-wait-for-signs