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GS v. STA: Hot Older Women
by SB Sarah | by SB Sarah | May 17, 2007 | Thursday at 5:34 pm | 50 CommentsBitchery Reader Diving Belle has requested a rather broad area for a reading request, but it’s still worth exploring since, hey, she’s got a point. Women of Age in Romance can be hard to find sometimes:
Are there any authors/series that feature heroines who aren’t 18, or even 28? (Perhaps these woman could even be *gasp* in their 40s? I know, I know, but it is called fiction!)
As much as I love any juicy romantic yarn, it would be refreshing to read about Kickass Wimmen who weren’t born yesterday, or even the day before!
I hear that. So, what hawt older women do you know of in good romance novels? And more over, what did you like about the book?
Filed: Good Shit vs. Shit to Avoid
Kalen Hughes said on 05.17.07 at 05:46 PM • [link]
Jennifer Skully/Jasmine Haynes consistently features heroines in their 40s. I highly recommend her books, esp Sex and the Serial Killer.
Beth said on 05.17.07 at 05:59 PM • [link]
I loved Jennifer Crusie’s “Anyone But You”, which features a 40-year-old heroine and a 30-year-old hero. It’s smart, funny, and has a matchmaking dog. What more could you want?
Ha—verification is lay65.
rebyj said on 05.17.07 at 06:03 PM • [link]
Jennifer Archer’s ” off her rocker” published by harlequin last year in the “next” series. LOVED the book, passed it on to my 72 yr old mother who loved it too.
also, Diana Gabaldon’s Outlander series Claire ages from late 20’s to early 50’s as the series progresses.
I’m 42 and love reading books with older women having some fun!!
Najida said on 05.17.07 at 06:10 PM • [link]
I’m 50 so add me to the Cruisie and Gabaldon group. Sadly, I find it harder and harder to relate to 20 year old smart mouthed virgins.
Wonder why?
BevQB said on 05.17.07 at 06:12 PM • [link]
Definitely Gabaldon’s Claire. And Robin Schone is known for her older heroines. In her latest, Scandalous Lovers, we have a 49 year old heroine. Fascinating to see how a woman of that age was viewed and treated back then.
Katie said on 05.17.07 at 06:25 PM • [link]
PC Cast often uses older women as her heroines in her novels. Her Goddess series usually feature more experienced women (try out Goddess of Spring… sooo good). The are “paranormals” though, not historicals or anything like that.
Electric Landlady said on 05.17.07 at 06:33 PM • [link]
Crusie’s “Fast Women” also features a heroine & hero in their forties. Also a detective agency and a dachshund in disguise. These are good things. Most of her books have a heroine at least in her 30s.
And if you like SF I will wave the flag for Lois McMaster Bujold’s “Shards of Honor” and “Barrayar” (published together as “Cordelia’s Honor”)—heroine is 34 and smart and strong and awesome, and they are some of my favourite books of all time.
Looking forward to the list.
(Code is “gave99”—sorry, nowhere close.)
Nifty said on 05.17.07 at 06:43 PM • [link]
A recent favorite of mine was Black Rose by Nora Roberts. The heroine, Roz, is well into her 40s…almost 50. I loved reading about an older female character who was vibrant and sexy but had the added benefit of nearly half a century of wisdom and experience. You go, girl!
Black Rose is the second book in the In the Garden trilogy, along with Blue Dahlia and Red Lily.
Myriantha Fatalis said on 05.17.07 at 06:57 PM • [link]
Once upon a time coughcirca1978cough, some romance publisher (maybe Harlequin?) had a series called “Second Chance at Love”. All the books seemed to feature middle-aged women, nearly always with children, who after ditching or being abandoned by their jerk-ish first husbands, found happiness (and sometimes their first orgasm) with a Sensitive 80s Kinda Guy. Who adored her kids. But not in a creepy way. Obviously, these books were very much a product of their time. My 13-ish year old self thought they were rather fun and occasionally witty, but who knows what I’d think of them as an adult.
Katie W. said on 05.17.07 at 07:03 PM • [link]
As most everyone has already said, Jennifer Crusie writes wonderful romance novels with heroines who are at least in their 30’s.
Even though I’m still in my 20’s, I absolutely love reading her books because they are so beautifully optimistic. One of the hottest sex scenes that I’ve ever read was in “Crazy For You” and the heroine is a high school arts teacher.
I also enjoy Susan Elizabeth Philips. They’re re-issuing a bunch of her novels with new covers, so you have to be careful to read the back cover copy because some of her older titles are a bit cheesy. But her Phoebe Somerville book, “It Had To Be You,” which set off the Chicago Stars series. The entire Chicago Stars series is pretty good, and the heroines are definitely not in their 20’s. (I think Phoebe was in her 40’s and then the rest of the heroines in the series were in their 30’s but I’m not sure.)
Ann Aguirre said on 05.17.07 at 07:05 PM • [link]
Well, I’m not sure if late thirties qualifies as “older”, but I loved A FINE WORK OF ART by Shelby Reed. It’s an older woman / younger man story.
Darlene Marshall said on 05.17.07 at 07:25 PM • [link]
Susan Elizabeth Phillips often has a romance between older secondary characters. Heaven, Texas; Nobody’s Baby But Mine; This Heart of Mine; Natural Born Charmer and Kiss An Angel are a few of them.
sleeky said on 05.17.07 at 07:35 PM • [link]
Sleeping Beauty by Judith Ivory is a rare historical with an experienced older woman (37) and younger man (30). It’s sweet and written with some flair.
(show me the money76!)
Najida said on 05.17.07 at 07:35 PM • [link]
I believe as the romance reading population gets older, so will the heroines (I hope). When I was a girl, a woman of 50 had white hair, dentures, lived for her children/grandchildren and was approaching her 30+ year of marriage.
She wasn’t viewed as being sexual, attractive or even remotely romantic.
Times have changed.
che said on 05.17.07 at 07:36 PM • [link]
I think Stef Ann Holm’s Girl’s Night and Leaving Normal both featured heroines in their 40’s, or close to it. GN is a Dec/May romance, btw.
che said on 05.17.07 at 07:38 PM • [link]
OOPS…it’s Leaving Normal, not GN that was a Dec/May romance.
Carry on.
psreader said on 05.17.07 at 07:43 PM • [link]
I recently read “Hot Dish” by Connie Brockaway. The female lead, Jenn was in the 40 yo range and the male lead, Steve was around 50.
jennifer echols said on 05.17.07 at 07:43 PM • [link]
In Jennifer Crusie’s TELL ME LIES, the hero is 37 and the heroine is 38. I just finished it the other day and it’s my favorite Crusie by far (and I love me some Crusie). I was going to ask y’all what you thought of this since the Bitches seem to be all about the BET ME.
Also, doesn’t Harlequin’s current series Next feature older heroines?
MaryKate said on 05.17.07 at 07:45 PM • [link]
Our own Nora wrote one: Black Rose. Features a heroine in her 40s.
MaryKate said on 05.17.07 at 07:47 PM • [link]
Oh…duh. I don’t think the hero of Black Rose, Mitch, was younger though.
Lisa Kleypas’ book Suddenly You features and older woman/younger man storyline.
Sandra D said on 05.17.07 at 08:07 PM • [link]
I third the Black Rose recommendation, as well as Blue Dahlia which is the first book in that series. BD features a herione in her mid 30’s.
Jana J. Hanson said on 05.17.07 at 08:16 PM • [link]
Julie Kenner’s Carpe Demon series features a 30-ish mother of 2. The tag is (paraphrasing) Buffy if she’d gotten married.
L. Violet said on 05.17.07 at 08:31 PM • [link]
I wrote an erotic novel with three-count-‘em-three women in their late fifties and sixties. They meet this younger man, see…
So far no one’s bought it, but its time will come.
Kathryn Lively said on 05.17.07 at 08:33 PM • [link]
I’m pleased to inform you that in June we will publish Hot Georgia Winds by Charlotte Boyett-Compo, which features an over-50 heroine in love with a man more than 20 years her junior. It is a wonderful, suspenseful story.
Later in the year, we will offer an anthology of stories featuring over-40 heroines, to be edited by Robin Slick. Robin also has with Phaze two books featuring an over-40 heroine - Three Days in New York City and Another Bite of the Apple.
Jo said on 05.17.07 at 08:48 PM • [link]
Sharon Sala wrote a book back in the 90s called “Familiar Stranger,” a part of the Year of Loving Dangerously Series by Silhouette. The heroine is in her upper 40s if not her 50s. The hero is a retiring spy who ran away from her when they were kids and he knew she wanted to get married. But the heroine was one smart lady—she was pregnant, but married a man she could love who would also love her baby. She didn’t sit around waiting for the hero. And when he came back, after her husband died, he had to convince her that he was now worth it. Nice story—even the daughter is realistic.
Jennifer said on 05.17.07 at 09:00 PM • [link]
Not necessarily a genre romance novel per se, but I just finished reading Kelley Armstrong’s “No Humans Involved” and the heroine is 40-something. And has some happy boffing scenes with the werewolf she’s lusted after for years.
Jeri said on 05.17.07 at 09:03 PM • [link]
In Lois McMaster Bujold’s Paladin of Souls (not a romance per se, but has strong romantic elements, like most of her stuff), the heroine is quite a bit past middle age. In Fantasyland, like Historical-world, that means late 40s, early 50s.
The romance was understated (no hot monkey-bonk scenes) but very compelling.
Thomma Lyn said on 05.17.07 at 09:05 PM • [link]
My romance novella, published by Chippewa Publishing, features a heroine in her early fifties. Yeah, yeah—I’m plugging my own book, but I saw this thread and just couldn’t resist. *wink*
Seriously, check out THY ETERNAL SUMMER if you’re so inclined—it’s received good reviews. :)
eponymous said on 05.17.07 at 10:11 PM • [link]
Barbara Bretton’s Just Like Heaven (not named after the Cure song!) has a hero and heroine in their forties/early fifties. (She has a grown daughter.) I highly, highly recommend it.
The hero of Janet Mullany’s Dedication (looks like a trad Regency, really really isn’t) is 44 and a grandfather (accurate for the era). The heroine is slightly younger, though not by much.
Jami Alden said on 05.17.07 at 11:07 PM • [link]
Cindy Gerard’s most recent Body Guard book, UNDER THE WIRE, features a heroine in her mid 40’s and a hero in his early/mid 30’s. It’s a fun romantic suspense.
Kalen Hughes said on 05.17.07 at 11:47 PM • [link]
I don’t think the hero of Black Rose, Mitch, was younger though.
The request didn’t say anything about the hero being younger, it was just looking for non-ingénue heroines.
Carrie Lofty said on 05.17.07 at 11:52 PM • [link]
I haven’t read any of their stuff, but Wild Rose Press has a line called “Last Rose of Summer” that features stories billed as “over-40 contemporaries.” Not necessarily an endorsement, but it caught my eye as being a little different.
Susan/DC said on 05.18.07 at 12:20 AM • [link]
Nancy Butler had a trad Regency I liked a lot, The Ramshackle Suitor, with a 30 y.o. heroine and a 25 y.o. hero. The book is very sweet and sexy but within the trad standards of kisses only. She portrayed the hero’s growing awareness of the heroine as a romantic possibility very well. I loved the scene where he first kisses her; she asks why and he responds “because it makes you happy”—how could you not love a such a hero?
Lillian said on 05.18.07 at 01:08 AM • [link]
I just finished Feels Like Family by Sherryl Woods. The heroine is in her early 40s, which I certainly wouldn’t call old, but she is stubborn and kickass.
Deborah Smith said on 05.18.07 at 01:41 AM • [link]
Hi
Second Chance at Love was a Berkley line back in the 1980’s (I wrote six books for it) and it wasn’t about middle-aged heroines. The conceit was that these were h/h who had failed at love in the past and were now going for their “second chance.” But they were still youngish, no more than early thirties.
I believe Zebra had a line of middle-aged romances back in the late 1980’s.
With that said . . . I don’t think I’ve featured a heroine under 30 in any of my single titles going back about 15 years. My oldest heroine was Hush McGillan, (Sweet Hush) who, at 40, had a son in Harvard. Most of my heroes and heroines are in their thirties.
KS Augustin said on 05.18.07 at 02:13 AM • [link]
I write SF romance mostly so it’s probably not as relevant to this discussion, but I consciously try very hard *not* to peg an age to my heroines. They are all women who are accomplished in what they do and, at the point of when the story occurs, have usually accumulated quite a bit of life experience. Whether this means they’re in their 30s, 40s or 50s is irrelevant, especially when you’re describing non-human-yet-humanoid species within all those space opera trappings. But, yeah, I’m way over the 20s heroine…without that life experience, I don’t find them that interesting.
(I do have a young heroine in my one Fantasy story, but she’s old in experience.)
Deborah Smith said on 05.18.07 at 03:11 AM • [link]
Plug alert:
BTW, the series I write for and edit, Mossy Creek Hometown, features a 50ish sexy smalltown mayor (female) being feverishly pursued by the sexy smalltown police chief (male) who is fifteen years younger than she.
Avrelia said on 05.18.07 at 03:16 AM • [link]
I have recently reread a Georgette Heyer novel, False Colours. On the surface it seems a story of one hanky twin pretending to be the other hanky twin, however this time I felt that the main heroine is actually the twins’ mother Lady Denville, the charming widow without any talent in economy, and it is the resolution of her romance (with as an unlikely hero as possible) makes the real resolution of the story. As the twins age is stated 24, their mother is probably 42-43, though of course she won’t tell
Wry Hag said on 05.18.07 at 04:43 AM • [link]
Three words: Harold and Maude. (Yeah, okay, so it’s not a book. So stone me.)
PC Cast said on 05.18.07 at 05:18 AM • [link]
Thanks Katie for mentioning that my heroines tend to be older (Lina in Goddess of Spring was in her 40s). I prefer my heroines to be over 30. Well over 30 actually, but that doesn’t always fly with editors.
How about LaVyrle Spencer’s Family Blessings! The heroine was in her 40s and the delicious young hero was her dead son’s best friend.
I also love that Nora’s books often feature older heroines.
CC said on 05.18.07 at 05:19 AM • [link]
Hannah Garvey from Suzanne Ledbetter’s direction series- smart and funny- picking up my copy of Halfway to Half Way at the indie bookstore tomorrow
Estelle Chauvelin said on 05.18.07 at 05:45 AM • [link]
I was going to mention PC Cast, too. I think I remember Goddess of the Sea being the only one with a heroine who might not qualify.
Funny, I rarely seem to read romance with a heroine in her twenties (and never in her early twenties), unless we’re talking a historical where if she gets to twenty without being married the author had better make sure it’s explained why.
Miki said on 05.18.07 at 06:20 AM • [link]
Also, doesn’t Harlequin’s current series Next feature older heroines?
Next isn’t (necessarily) a romance line, though. The request was vague enough that this may not be an issue. But just thought I’d mention it…
Heather said on 05.18.07 at 06:31 AM • [link]
Not exactly a romance - I don’t read a lot of romance, though I’ll look into any recommendations I’m given - but I’m quietly working on a novel where the central female character is in her late thirties. I’m nowhere near that age, but I’m trying to do her justice because I honestly do think she’s pretty cool.
On the other hand, she’s…not really listening to her conscience at the moment. For shame, Julia!
Does that catch your interest?
Shelley Munro said on 05.18.07 at 11:49 AM • [link]
Promo alert - the third book in my Talking dogs series, Romantic Interlude, has an older hero and heroine :) It’s at Ellora’s Cave.
Feyrhi said on 05.18.07 at 01:03 PM • [link]
There is a book that just came out called “All About Evie” by Beth Ciotta. Great romance, quirky, a fun read and Evie is 40.
DT said on 05.19.07 at 03:12 PM • [link]
Kelley Armstrong’s No Humans Involved has Jamie Vegas and she’s in her early 40’s along with Jeremy who I beleive is in his 50’s. It’s a favorite of mine.
Grace Draven said on 05.22.07 at 03:17 PM • [link]
Late to the party on this one, but why not?
Promo alert - I wrote a free story for Romance Divas. Bathsheba’s Lover is about a woman celebrating her 50th birthday and the 39-year old man who celebrates with her. It’s posted here:
http://grace-draven.livejournal.com/1398.html#cutid1
Sybylla said on 05.23.07 at 06:11 AM • [link]
Wry Hag: “Three words: Harold and Maude. (Yeah, okay, so it’s not a book. So stone me.)”
Actually, it is a book, written by Colin Higgins, who also wrote the screenplay. I wouldn’t want to lay odds that he didn’t do both at the same time, since I’m pretty sure they both came out in ‘71, but it is a novel, not a novelization.
(Truthfully, I think it’s better as a movie, but that’s just IMO).
Nike said on 12.18.07 at 12:10 AM • [link]
I just discovered this site and I’m so mortified that I didn’t find it sooner. I love reading the reviews and all your opinions. I’ve already found four books and I’m relieved that there’s a place I can go for book recommendations instead of slogging through the mountains of crap to find the few gems.
I’m a fan of good storytelling, period, but I gravitate towards Older Woman/Younger Man books because I got sick of reading about young idiots; eighteen and twenty-five year old women who didn’t have the brains to take care of themselves.
Heart Of The West by Penelope Williamson. Features an OW/YM story that I enjoyed—but they are secondary characters.
The Outsider by Penelope Williamson.
One Summer by Karen Robards. Bad boy accused of murder and his former teacher is the only one who believes that he’s innocent.
Snowfire by Anne Mater. This author has a couple OW/YM stories out there (Treacherous Liaisons, Sinful Pleasures). I don’t know if I can say that they were good, but I found them very entertaining.
Sweet Memories by LaVyrle Spencer. I really liked this book, it was a very “sweet†story. It’s about a woman coming to terms with herself and her body, and along the way she falls in love.
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