I started writing this late last week while pondering what it is about Edward that has folks so addicted to the Twilight series, and so willing to overlook or excuse what critics find to be some creeptastic behavior on his part. Since then, the first 12 chapters of Midnight Sun have been leaked, much to author Stephenie Meyer’s dismay, and she’s halted progress on the project indefinitely. Whether the leak was a publicity stunt or whether someone she gave the chapters to was too tempted not to share them, there remains a LOT of interest in Sir Edward of Sparklyville, and I’ve been spending way too much time comparing him to Alpha Heroes from Days Of Yore to determine what it is about him that’s so transfixing, so addictive, so amazing that people are literally going bananas over the idea that they won’t get the rest of his perspective from Midnight Sun. And of course, I’m reading Midnight Sun and wondering how much time I can spend in this guy’s head before I go bananas. I warn you: this entry is holy shit long. Don’t say you weren’t warned.
While there seems to be some divide between the folks who love them some Jacob, I remain fascinated with the people who are over the moon about Edward, particularly as he’s portrayed in Twilight.
The more I think about it, and look back on Edward’s appearances and interactions with Bella in Twilight, the more he reminds me of the same old-same old Alpha romance hero —specifically, the old-school Alpha hero recast in glittery YA paleness. The same Alpha hero characteristics that so many readers find either tiresome or downright terrific are present in Edward, and serve to make him addictive and alluring.
Many people have noted how conservative and conventional Twilight is as a romance. They are not wrong, in my opinion. Joanne Renaud was the first to give me the heads up on her opinion that Edward was old-skool all the way down to the punishing kisses. I agree: Bella and Edward’s romance echoes the old skool romances of the beginnings of the romance genre: stories told deep within the point of view of the heroine, wherein the hero is a mysterious figure whose desires and intentions are not known, let alone his feelings. The old skool romance hallmarks are all there, most notably, as Candy pointed out to me after her glut of the old skool romances earlier this year, the idea that the hero’s worldview must be adopted by the heroine in order for her to secure her happy ending, complete with increased social status, wealth, and possible title.
Twilight fits that mold. Bella must become complicit in the secrecy of Edward’s world, and in fact she’s the one who presses to adopt his worldview – by becoming a vampire herself. Within Edward’s family, Bella is special merely because she is Edward’s choice and is absorbed into his family simply on that basis, leaving her father’s home for his, literally and figuratively, following the traditional pattern that takes a virginal woman from her father’s possession and guardianship to her husband’s, do not pass go, do not collect $200.
What set me on the Edward-as-Alpha road to much pondering were the interactions in Twilight after Edward has decided to cease ignoring Bella. Every time he shows up after he’s decided to talk to Bella, he rescues her, and immediately following sweeps in and manages every detail of her life. Moreover, that first occasion of rescue is telling; it comes at a moment of great vulnerability for Bella.
She’s alone at home on a snowy day, convinced she’s going to fall down on the icy sidewalks or wreck her truck on the roads. But she realizes after she gets to school that her father had put chains on her tires early in the morning, before he left and before she woke up, purely to keep her safe. As Belly realizes that her father was quietly watching out for her, an experience she has little familiarity with, in swoops Edward- literally – to save her by bending flying vans to his will. It’s a subtle moment of underscoring: Bella literally travels from her father’s care to Edward’s care in that moment. From then on, Edward saves her over and over again, sweeping in and managing every detail for her. Her father’s role is merely as a figure in the household, and readers of Midnight Sun know that Edward was as much a figure in that household as Charlie, whether Charlie or Bella knew it or not. Consider the sequence of Edward and Bella’s interactions:
She gets nearly crushed by a van. He saves her life.
She faints in science class. He carries her to the nurse, then gets her excused from classes so he can bring her home.
She is followed by creepy guys in a coastal town. He shows up after reading the thoughts of the villains and rescues her at the last moment before they act on their intentions.
Edward’s Alpha Heroism is solidified by the degree to which he micromanages Bella after those three rescues. He knows whats best. But he takes it one step further by becoming an overseer in her life. Because he doesn’t sleep, he can literally stay with her all the freaking time, aside from when he’s not hunting, and even then he worries about her safety. He makes sure she eats; he watches her as she sleeps. He pretty much rebuilds his entire day around being with her. He meets her after class, he follows her home, and her day in the Twilight narration becomes measured by when she’s with Edward vs. when she’s not. He pays a great deal of lip service to the idea of keeping her safe but it’s more a taming of the Alpha Hero, on speed with added crack and angst, because not only does Edward hover over her and pretty much glue himself to her side, but she wants nothing more than to be with him. Every. Minute. All. Day. He drinks blood to survive; she drinks the experience of being with him to avoid depresson.
He tames his desire to kill her and eat her, but he still consumes her, which is the point that made me the most uncomfortable, but may also serve as a primary reference as to why Edward is so alluring a character. While Edward and Bella don’t knock boots in Twilight, Edward manages to insert himself figuratively into her life and become the center of every moment of Bella’s life – and she’s all for it. More than one person commented to me privately after reading my review that the manner in which Bella subsumes her identity and becomes absorbed by Edward almost symbiotically made them as readers profoundly uncomfortable, because it echoed abusive relationships they witnessed or experienced. It wasn’t romantic for them, that totalitarian management – it was creepy.
Plus there’s the fact that Edward doesn’t really do anything else with his endless days. The only one who does anything with that whole vampiric sleeplessness is Carlisle. He doesn’t need sleep? He’s a butt-trillion years old with light years of medical experience? Holy shit, he’s the best ER doctor ever. Imagine what patient lessons he could relate (thanks to Taylor for the link).
But Edward doesn’t DO anything aside from attend school in presence only, play baseball, and drive cars rather quickly. He plays music but he’s already excellent – a virtuoso, in fact. Bella, for all intents and purposes, becomes his hobby. Being near her, whether she knows it or not, is what he does. But because he has more of a life and routine than she does, she is absorbed into his world, partly because she has no real life in Forks herself, and partly because the secrecy of their society demands it.
The biggest characteristic of an Old Skool Alpha Hero is The Rape of the Heroine, which doesn’t literally occur in Twilight, though one could argue that James’ biting Bella could be interpreted as rape, and Edward’s refusal to change her into a vampire as the refusal to do so. Edward does invade Bella’s privacy and home without her permission in order to watch her, and if his commentary is to be believed, to try to resist killing her. That leashed intention to kill, I think, can be interpreted the same as the leashed intent to rape. But in a strange turn, Bella begs for that violation: she wants to be the same as Edward, and she wants him to kill her and change her.
Regardless of who asks for what form whom, Edward’s possession and possessive attitude are alarmingly Alpha. When anyone—his brothers, random serial rapists hiding in small towns, or another vampire—threatens the human he considers his own, Edward goes berserk. His possession of Bella, even in his mind, is complete and total, and her willingness to follow that possession, since he knows what’s best for her, casts her in a sheepish model that I never recovered from as I read Twilight.
Reading Midnight Sun’s first 12 chapters (while I try to intersperse reading The Jewel of Medina at the same time, speaking of going berserk) hasn’t helped much. Edward’s self-loathing is evident, but the “I’m not good enough for her but she’s MINE MINE MINE EDWARD SMASH” attitude reinforces my suspicions: that Edward is an old-skool Alpha male hero in the classic model, dipped in sparkles and dispensed to a younger audience. Perhaps that explains his allure – there are many, many readers who adore the Alpha model in their romance hero, and Edward is no different.
(That “no kids” should be “no kids with the one you Truly Love” or similar. That and having the people you actually DID have kids with know subconsciously that they were second-best to you, and all the fun marital disatisfaction that comes with THAT. These characters got NO narrative rewards.)
I wouldn’t say Harry and Ginny’s relationship is similar in any way to Edward and Bella’s. In the books it’s made obvious Ginny’s gotten over her hero worship of Harry long before they date, snarking at and telling him off in the fifth book and having long relationships with two other boys. And she has a life outside of Harry, including sports, her own friends and manages to help run a resistance while Harry is gone during the last book.
Bella? What interests does she have other than Edward? What friends does she have besides Jacob, Edward and Edward’s family? Not to mention that when she was separated from Edward during the second book, she’s mopey and self-destructive. She’s an utter cipher of a character who has no purpose in life and no desire for anything more than Edward’s love and spending the rest of her life with him.
I have. I said on my own blog: Put a collar on Bella and make it official.
My biggest problem with that is, being of the same faith (and thoroughly saturated in all its attendant culture, traditions, jargon, and sensibilities) Meyer is, I am 95.76% sure she does NOT know what she wrote.
I seem to have liked the book, evidenced by the fact that I read it in three days. But afterwards, I couldn’t tell why. Edward is boring. There’s absolutely nothing there you haven’t seen before elsewhere. And I loathed Bella. Meyer deserves to be thrashed for writing such an obvious Mary Sue. She always falls over herself and needs to be rescued. She’s constant *eyeroll* material.
Allyssa said: In Edward defense, he was born and grew up 100 years ago when it was basically the “man’s role†to take care of the little woman and it was the “woman’s role†to accept being taken care of constantly. And even though times have changed, Edward has not (literally).
I agree entirely. Why so many insist on concentrating their focus on Edward as a stalker is beyond me. Well, actually, it isn’t. I get where you’re coming from, but as a fan of the entire series, I thought I’d throw in my two cents.
This is man who does grow and change. He fights everything that is in his nature for love. If we’re comparing his nature to things such real world things as stalking, why not compare his thirst for her blood to an addiction which struggles to give up in order to keep her in his life.
As far as the controlling bit, we all agree that Bella at times is TSTL, and this guy does everything possible to keep her alive. Alive is the key word here. He doesn’t tell her how to dress or that she needs to lose weight, he loves her for who she is. He sees in her something very special, something that he wishes she could see in herself.
As far as the obsession vs. love angle: many have commented that the two become one and she can not function without him. I fell in love with my high school sweetheart twenty years ago and I can honestly say that our love affair grows stronger every day. I could not function without him, he is a part of me. When he leaves for work in the morning, we say I love you, not I obsess you.
Deerskin. But make sure her mother doesn’t see it. Also either of McKinley’s retellings of “Beauty and the Beast,” but especially Rose Daughter.
The Crystal Gryphon, Gryphon in Glory, Gryphon’s Eyrie. Norton anything, actually, but I read those three to death when I was floundering.
One of the best descriptions of how an Asshole Alpha would end in a world populated by Real True People is in Frances Hodgson Burnett’s The Shuttle. It’s on Project Gutenberg.
The absolute best depiction of an Alpha’s growth has to be Georgette Heyer’s Sylvester, or the Wicked Uncle, in which a man who literally starred in a Gothic novel ends up running home to his mother when he can’t figure out how to un-screw up the one relationship he wants to pursue. But a 15-year-old may find the continual early-19th-century slang offputting.
If her thing is love between human and nonhuman, then McKinley’s novels are excellent—Rose Daughter in particular features a very, verrrry sexy Beast without going beyond what could be shown with Dad in the room. Also, a lot of Norton features this type of romance. Also check out the novelizations of the 1980s TV show Beauty and the Beast; the best are the Hambly paperbacks and the Pini graphic novel IMO. Plus there is lots and lots of really good fanfic (and even more that’s not so good but that’s what you get for reading fanfic) online at the Beauty and the Beast Reading Room and the Classic Alliance of Beauty and the Beast. If she likes sad stories, try the Unexpected Dragon Trilogy by Mary Brown, which is full of scenes of people getting what they want and finding it not to be what they need. Stuff to avoid: The Sholan Alliance series by Lisanne Norman. It’s bad furry fanfic. Published bad furry fanfic. Published bad furry fanfic that leaves sticky stains wherever the books happen to be set down or flung. It’s the kind of novel in which the heroine muses about her life of constant vigilance in an untamed howling dangerous wilderness world on page 7 and lets a completely unknown beast sit right next to her under a tree on page 11 because the author knows that the beast is really an alien prince with whom the heroine will have hot alien sexxorz. But I digress.
Seconding the Robin McKinley recs. And I’d recommend ALL her books:
Beauty
The Blue Sword
The Hero and the Crown
The Outlaws of Sherwood
Spindle’s End
Rose Daughter
Deerskin*
Sunshine*
Dragonhaven
Chalice (Sept 18, 2008!!!)
Pegasus (Fall 2009)
Yes, I am recommending books that haven’t been released yet and that I have not read, I love McKinley’s writing that much. McKinley writes great female heroes who learn to fend for themselves – as well as rely on friends and family, but not to the point of codependency. Her male heroes are lovely, too, and at the core of the relationships, there’s respect for their partner. Even Dragonhaven, which is about a boy – McKinley’s first male narrator, I think (aside from Robin Hood in Outlaws) – and his quest to save and raise an orphan dragon; despite female characters not being the main ones in this particular book like they are in McKinley’s other books, they’re not refrigerated or otherwise made secondary to the male’s story.
*These two are a bit more adult in the explicitness of some sexual and violent themes. I read them when I was 15 or 16, but I always recommend them with the caveat that they are for adults, while McKinley’s other books are suitable for younger readers as well as adults. One thing I love about her books is that they tend to grow with you; I don’t ever get the impression that she’s talking down to the reader—I think McKinley’s said she does not write specifically for a YA audience. There are things in her books I loved when I was 11, and I keep finding more stuff to like now over ten years later.
I’d also recommend Sarah Dessen (any of her books, pretty much; they all have a romantic element to them, but I like that a good deal of the focus is on family and friendship), Diana Wynne Jones, Madeleine L’Engle, Carol Plum-Ucci, Dana Stabenow (Kate Shugak series <3 ), LOIS MCMASTER BUJOLD (both the Vorkosigan and Sharing Knife series)...
Stalkers aren’t alphas; they’re betas pretending. A real beta leads rather than drags and it would never ocurr to anyone NOT to follow. Edward’s not an alpha—not to mention how many people HE relies on.
What disturbed me more was this sick notion of immortality erasing the notion of pedophilia and even this idea of imprinting as a way for a man to have a very young girl pre-selected as his mate. Squick!!!! I didn’t buy the mormon symbolism thing til that popped up and ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
Plus everything Mel said.
This is an excellent breakdown of this book. Someone left a comment on my review of ‘Eclipse’ because they thought I’d be interested and I’m so glad they did.
I personally loathe the books due to the many reasons listed here, about Edward and Bella that other people have done a much better job of writing up, so I won’t reiterate them to the boredom of everyone else.
What gets me more though, is the portrayal of Jacob Black. Maybe I’m overly sensitive to race issues (being part Native and also working on a reserve for the past three years) but the fact that she didn’t do much in the ways of research really ticked me off. It’s bad enough that First Nations barely get any “air time” and then when they do, they don’t get an accurate portrayal most of the times.
Maybe it’s different in reservations in the States, but she seems to gloss over the economic and social issues that tend to be there, namely underage drinking, smoking and teen sex as well as (in some, NOT all reserves) chronic unemployment. I was also surprised about the bit she put in New Moon about Jacob not understanding why people would listen to his dad.
This is kind of sloppy on SMeyer’s part, because if she had done her homework, she would have realized that there’s quite a bit of respect for the Elders of the community in MOST of the First Nations groups. Jacob, having been raised on a reservations, would have known that and the thought of anyone NOT listening to his father (Who would have been an Elder due to age and experience) wouldn’t have even blipped on his radar.
I love Jacob Black because of some selfish reasons (he reminds me a lot of one of my exes, who coincidentally was Plains Cree) and also because as a minority, it’s pretty cool to see a portrayal that isn’t stuck in an old school view or a “noble savage” view, but one of real people.
So Edward, for me doesn’t even register. He’s like the necessary evil that has to be put up with, along with Bella. Jacob was the main draw for me in the books, too bad that she cut him a raw deal in the narrative. He would have been a better first leading man.
I’m chiming in so late on this thread, but after obsessively following this Twilight explosion (much like Edward watching Bella breathe) I’ve just got to get some things off my chest.
First- I read Twilight when it first came out through work and enjoyed it. Didn’t think it was OMG SFG! but I liked the tone and the mood and the atmosphere. Made it through New Moon with a great deal of effort. I don’t like to abandon books. But I did abandon Eclipse. And I didn’t bother with Breaking Dawn. Meyer’s inability to plot, the repetitiveness of the stories, her attention to uninteresting details, and the utterly pedestrian prose interfered too much with the enjoyment of some interesting characters.
Bella’s spinelessness was what ultimately did the series in for me. Her “suicide” attempts after Edward left were ridiculous, just too much. I agree that this series is a feminist nightmare, especially after reading the coverage of BD.
Anyway, two points in mind, based on all this. First, the question of “What about the children????” that is permeating the blogosphere reminds me of nothing so much as the eighteenth-century debate over women and novel-reading. The (generally male) attempts to control the reading matter of women were couched in protective terms—these books would disturb young, tender brains, make vulnerable young women unfit for normal life, fill them with unsuitable impressions of the world, and prime them to expect constant shocks and excitement rather than prepare them to be wives and mothers. And throughout literature you find cautionary tales (some more serious than others) like Northanger Abbey and Madame Bovary about the effects of romantic fiction on women.
My opinion is always, it’s better to read than not read. Better to know what you’re dealing with than oppose from a position of ignorance. Better to give teenage girls agency than deprive them of even the small liberty of choosing their own reading material. Talk with your daughters about relationships, men, feminism, and literature—but let them choose what to read. They’ll be okay.
Second, it astounds me that Stephenie Meyer in 2008 has written a less feminist, less progressive story about obsessive love than Charlotte Bronte did in 1847. Meyer explicitly references Jane Eyre (she claims to have named Edward after Mr Rochester). But think of the differences: The power dynamic between Jane and Rochester is explicitly established as untenable, as false, as wrong. Jane declares herself his equal, and he agrees. But he nonetheless retains undue power over her, as the aborted wedding proves—if Mason had not arrives to out Rochester’s previous wife, Jane would be forced into a life absolutely counter to her values and beliefs.
Then, when they separate, while Jane yearns for Rochester and gives up thoughts of love, she does not give up thoughts of LIFE. She finds new friends, she finds new occupation as a teacher in a school (an occupation Bronte thought less degrading than governessing), she even inherits a fortune comparable to Rochester’s own. Only then does she return to Thornfield, answering the connection that has existed between them throughout. Only when she can return to him as a self-sufficient equal does she allow herself to revisit her obsessive desire.
Of course, at that point Thornfield is burned, Rochester is blinded and maimed, and Jane is now in the position of power. A total reversal. Only then can a healthy love emerge between them.
Sorry about that long digression, but I wonder reading the Twilight series if Meyer understood the slightest thing about Jane Eyre which, despite the colonialist and imperialist implications Spivak pointed out, is truly a story of a woman’s coming into power and independence apart from what men grant her.
If this is the best that Meyer can do after over a century and a half of the women’s movement, than I believe she is irredemiably anti-feminist. That’s my opinion and I’m sticking to it.
Let’s all just go read Jane Eyre again.
I sometimes wonder when Meyer talks about which literary romances supposedly inspired her if she understood anything at all about them past the basic concept of their being romances. She’s cited Romeo and Juliet, Pride and Prejudice, and Jane Eyre that I’ve seen, and the core romantic relationships in all three are distinctly different. Aside from Twilight featuring a romance between a girl and a boy, I have a hard time trying to figure out where she’s going with her so-called inspirations. (Not to mention her repeated, almost random comparisons of Edward to pretty much every romantic hero who pops into her head.)
You guys totally rock. (I was all hyped up to read this after TadMack posted a link on our blog, but I felt I had to finish Breaking Dawn first – god knows why).
Anyway. I loved this whole post, but I particularly loved the bit about Bella “following the traditional pattern that takes a virginal woman from her father’s possession and guardianship to her husband’s, do not pass go, do not collect $200.” Even better—luckily for her—the Cullens are bomb-ass rich so she never needs to even WORRY about collecting $200. It’s like she’s marrying some rich count.
Also, I now have a new theory. Bella wants to be with Edward so much, not because his presence is like crack, but because he IS CRACK. Literally MADE of crack. That’s why he sparkles.
She’s cited Romeo and Juliet, Pride and Prejudice, and Jane Eyre that I’ve seen, and the core romantic relationships in all three are distinctly different. Aside from Twilight featuring a romance between a girl and a boy, I have a hard time trying to figure out where she’s going with her so-called inspirations. (Not to mention her repeated, almost random comparisons of Edward to pretty much every romantic hero who pops into her head.)
I just discovered this blog so yes, I’m way behind and no one will probably see this comment but oh well.
First: love Twilight, New Moon was “eh”, Eclipse made me so angry I literally cried from frustration and Breaking Dawn was so horrible that it snatched away my love for the fandom until recently when Robert Pattinson clips have got me excited to see the movie (yes, I’m seeing it just to watch his sexy self).
Edward’s “stalking” never bothered me. There’s something extremely appealing about a man wanting you that much. And I guess because you’re reading the stories, you know he’s the hero and poses no real threat so you’re able to ignore it as you should with fiction. What it reminds me of is a scene from Buffy in season 2 after her beloved boyfriend Angel turns evil and is watching her while she sleeps and leaving her drawings. Afterwards she’s talking to a friend:
BUFFY: It’s so weird… Every time something like this happens, my first instinct is still to run to Angel. I can’t believe it’s the same person. He’s completely different from the guy that I knew.
WILLOW: Well, sort of, except…
BUFFY: Except what?
WILLOW: You’re still the only thing he thinks about.
And that right there, was somehow romantic. Even though he’s stalking her – it’s powerful. I think power can be extremely attractive.
Now I wouldn’t put Bella & Edward up there with Buffy & Angel – because, honestly, to me there is no comparison. I didn’t mind Bella in the first book but disliked her intensely in the 3rd and 4th novels – but I LOVE Edward.
I liked the first book. The second book made me pull my eyelashes out.
I love a pushy hero. I have no problem with a little sub fantasy. I started my teen years reading old skool romances where the hero practically raped the heroine and she liked it and begged for more.
Even with all that, I found the second book disturbing. I’m not so much disturbed with Edwards alpah-ness, as I am with Bella’s wimpiness. If she had been a stronger character, I would be fascinated with the series, but she’s such a pile of goo, I am horrified. I am not mad at Edward for being pushy and sort of useless. I’m mad at her for not giving it back to him. For not pushing him and forcing him to see himself in a new way. She’s devoid of personality. Being klutzy isn’t the same as being interesting.
Edward is very much the old skool hero, but then again, I find most vampire romance novels to be like that. They cater to the fantasy of a obsessive love, a hero who does nothing but pine for you and whose only job is to make you feel like a special little snowflake.
Ultimately I read some horrible things as a kid and I came out relatively unscathed. Lots of boys read comic books which feature extreme exaggerations of female submission and alpha male dominance and no one is worrying that they won’t be able to have normal relationships when they grow up.
Here is a frightening thing. I was discussing Twilight with my 7th grade girls and they said the reason they weren’t upset that Edward broke into Bella’s house and watched her while she slept (skeevy stalker action) was because he was GORGEOUS.
So I turned it back on them and said “What happens if you are dating a 7th grade boy and you really liked him and he did the same things Edward did?” They got really irritated and frustrated and again responded “Well is he hot?”
It was… disturbing. I’m not sure if it’s a societal thing or possibly a human thing where if someone is beautiful then they are allowed to get away with despicible behavior.
Either way I was making a fruitless argument. They wanted to squeal over a gorgeous male. They wanted the alpha male when surrounded by young boys. You can’t cut that off no matter how hard you try. 🙁
Thank whatever higher power looked over me when I was younger that I was just socially awkward enough to infinitely prefer horror (Goosebumps anyone?) and sci-fi to romance.
I apparently missed the jumping off point upon which young women think stalking, controlling, abusive behavior is sexy, because reading these books for the purpose of reviewing them for the Indie bookstore I work at was about the most painful thing I’ve ever done. I gave them horrible reviews too, and my boss was angry that I didn’t mark them up to sell better.
People don’t need any more reason to buy this trash. If at some point I have a daughter and she comes home with stuff like this, I’d be way more upset then if she was having sex. Also, what the heck is it about sex in YA novels that squicks people so much? Teenagers have sex, big deal. I’d so much rather have my (hypothetical) children read about healthy relationships, even healthy sexual relationships, then romanticize abuse. I’d rather take them to movies where the gore never stops. I’d rather do all the icky things that people hate, even teach them naughty words, than justify the disgusting trash that is these books.
Also, the pregnancy scene in the fourth book is hilarious. It almost makes the whole thing worth it. I had to immediately find that scene from Aliens on youtube and giggle like a loon. I especially love the message in the books: sex before marriage is icky. But abandoning your parents and friends and dignity to be literally killed by someone that you claim you love, as a teenager and after only a couple of months together, is a-okay.
Look people: if you think abusive, illogical stuff like is any safer to hand off to children than even porn, you’re completely delusional.
I take it as a sign of my mental health that if I ever met an Edward(TM) in real life, I’d sooner castrate him than date him.
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Since something went wrong and my epic comment of greatness dissapeared, I’ll just summarise it.
I never read Twilight, if I did it would be for the lolfactor, even at the time when I only read bodice rippers.
Also, when I was younger and more impressionable i.e. 10-15 I only read fantasy/adventure. Most of them with male main characters, but I can remember one book that I really liked was Paxenarrion I think by Elizabeth Moon, wich is about a woman who runs away from home and ends up in the army… I can’t really remember more, it was a long time ago.
Oh yeah, and I’m 17 right now…
That’s all, bye.
I couldn’t find the book when I searched for just Paxenarrion so here’s a link to the full 3book series as one book at amazon.com
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Deed-Paksenarrion-Elizabeth-Moon/dp/0743471601
Ah, I found the reason I couldn’t find the first book only… It’s actually called The Sheepfarmer’s Daughter… I read it in swedish and could only really remember the huge red PAXENARRION at the top of the book… Yeah… -.-;
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It was beauty insightful and clarified a few things I’d been thinking, but hadn’t been able to really lay out clearly in my mind.This is an excellent breakdown of this book.
Many a man has asked that same question. There is a new subculture of men—the Twilight Widowers—whose wives or girlfriends have been stolen away by one supernaturally sexy fictional vampire. But what is it about Edward Cullen and his family of “vegetarian vampires” that women find so appealing? What power or spell does Edward cast?
“How did Edward change after meeting Bella? He didn’t kill her, but he was already committed to being a “vegetarian”, so I don’t buy that one as being a change. Bella changed, Bella adapted, Bella gave up herself for love.”
Very good points Darlene!
I guess that this theme is never go out of fashion. And in the New Moon at the begining at the film they make analogy with a Romeo and Juliet.
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Ouch, too. The male “Alpha as a kind of attraction Romantic, and I do not sit good” idea.
How much nagging goes on between a vampire couple that doesn’t sleep, you think? I mean holy God, after all the fantabulous sex, you’re left with a spouse that can spend 24/7 complaining about the clogged toilet (wait, vampires don’t take dumps, do they? Riiiiiiiight….)
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Jacob, I abide absorbed with the humans who are over the moon about Edward, decidedly as he’s portrayed in Twilight.
The added I anticipate aboutCompTIA certificationit, and attending aback on Edward’s appearancesCIW certificationand interactions with Bella in Twilight, the added he reminds me of the aforementioned old-same old Alpha affair hero —specifically, the old-school Alpha hero adapt in blatant YA paleness. The aforementioned Alpha hero characteristics that so Citrix certificationabounding readers acquisition either annoying or absolute agitating are present in Edward, and serve to accomplish him addictive and alluring.
I don’t adapt Bella’s captivation in “Edward’s world” the aforementioned way that SB Sarah does. In my opinion, to use addition berserk accepted YA alternation as a parallel, the action is in the hero/heroine’s addition to a paranormal/magical apple abundant altered than accustomed life. I anticipate it’s agnate to Harry Potter’s captivation into the apple of Hogwarts. I wouldn’t accept that admiring the abracadabra of test inside Hogwarts somehow agency Harry’s personality is “subsumed” in the new world. That’s how I apprehend Bella’s adulation of the vampire world, because she’s not just beguiled with Edward, but she aswell loves the blow of it: the sparkly/forest parts, the speed, the mythology, etc.
I anticipate the fantasy of the aboriginal book is that Edward is somebody who spends all his time cerebration about Bella and attention her, and that is a actual able fantasy to a lot of women.
What a comparison, but I may say you are right about that.. hahahaha.
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